Yesterday at a dinner I was asked why I wasn’t more interested in Bitcoin. I didn’t have a real answer and my ignorance of my own opinion encouraged me to write it out.
I don’t know why the world is the way it is: why people are unhappy and why the future looks increasingly fraught. My conclusions lead me to consider that a majority of people do not feel self-efficacious in their decision making.
I’ve also begun to consider that surveillance affects decision making in an deeply negative way: while surveillance may have no effect or even encourage pro-social behavior, I wonder how easy it is to deny oneself (self-censor) with even the subtle threat of surveillance and punishment - even to censor yourself from yourself, which is a bizarre rabbit hole. What if pro-social behavior is anti-individual, and anti-social behavior is…pro-individual?
At times, it dawns on me how romantic and technically elegant Bitcoin is as a solution. I wish the branding were entirely different, but that’s a totally different post. The way I see it, I hesitate from further self-education and practical adoption for two reasons:
- Bitcoin can be positioned as the money to eclipse them all. I wonder if this exacerbates the actual issue as I see it: People do not need less options or choices, they need the practical self-trust that results from and encourages self-efficacious decision making. It is also true for me that some of the extremist cultural propositions among Bitcoiners can be stifling and suspect. To proposition Bitcoin in conjunction with values like carnivorism (as an easy example), “traditionalism”[1], and “individualism”/strongmen suggest to me an ascetic restriction of choice that values one perspective of individual autonomy, action, and expression in the world, but also creates an image of aggression and authoritarianism. This is not the sort of culture that promotes global adoption - an anonymous culture might be more effective IMO.
- It may be true that if transactions were inherently private, individuals may feel more powerful in shaping the world with their earned money. But, if Bitcoin is treated the same way that other money is treated, this purpose is increasingly defeated, and further solutions might be with policy change in the financial (and technology) sector(s) to protect consumer privacy and/or more privacy-centered technological development. None of these things are mutually exclusive - however, if a major issue we face is that when people feel watched and potentially judged for their actions, they become less self-efficacious and fail to express themselves - and this failure impacts their future and therefore culture/the world, then any solution needs to address this and potentially retain this as a guiding value.
To address the perspective that most of my critique has to do with culture, how does the current culture shape how the technology is developed and where the money flows and what is that compared to the effect of “the opposite” - how much does money spent and technology developed have a direct impact on culture? Which is of greater importance/impact in a moment to moment way?
I think I would like to learn and hear more about the values of the technology of Bitcoin itself - and what I suspect may be a “high value” of the value of the technology itself. And I wonder how that can be talked about more to reinvigorate the “people culture” to more accurately reflect the culture of the technology.
A bonus: What are some ideas for SN that you can think of that promote the value(s) of the technology of Bitcoin and/or privacy? And, more complexly, how can those ideas be implemented to prioritize those values? E.g., I’ve thought of the option of permanently deleting material as this can protect privacy; however, this conflicts with one of Bitcoin’s values as reflected by the distributed public ledger. Which is more important depends on your perspective on what is important to change the world - and what that ideal future looks like.
What is traditional? We used to live under a single king or ruler or chief - is that what Bitcoiners want? ↩
Do my wife and kids count as friends? If not, rarely. We have one other couple that we see as friends occasionally and I usually go back to the city to catch a Jays game with friends once or twice a year. Otherwise I mostly only hang out with my family and my friends on SN and I like it that way.
I would first and foremost review my security model. If Bitcoin shot up like that, you'd know two things:
You should assume that exchanges will shortly get hacked / compromised, and your purchasing history and KYC info made public.
You should also assume that the homes of Bitcoiners will start getting raided by criminals and governments alike.
Depending on the situation, you might want to upgrade to multisig provided you have enough secure locations and don't anticipate needing to flee the country.
I do not see any risk of having 20M sats in a LN channel vs a cold wallet.
The only risk is to get a force close, but that doesn't mean you will lose your sats. Not at all! You will only pay some extra fees, that's all.
It's all about perspective: what do you want to do with those sats.
If you plan to use use them, buying stuff, then the right choice is to have them ready in some LN channels.
If you do not plan to spend them soon, then yes, keep them in a cold wallet.
But keep ALL your sats in cold wallet and not being prepared to spend I think is silly. ofc you do not have to put all your sats in LN channels, but a portion of max 10% I think is reasonable. It's all about how many sats you expect to spend in the near future.
SPLITTING YOUR STASH IN 3 LEVELS IS VERY IMPORTANT!
https://i.postimg.cc/MTL2kvT0/3level-stash.jpg
Yes. It was founded by someone else late last year. I think @MEME_LORD started it but it was archived and SN just says that I am the founder based on the date it originally went live.
I discovered it.
https://m.stacker.news/56217
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This seems overly pessimistic. 100M users in 15 years may not seem like a lot if you're talking about a tech company (even though it actually is a lot)... but Bitcoin is money which has probably the strongest network effect of any technology out there, so you can't really judge things in the same way.
When I look at Bitcoin I see a real technological and social achievement. A public decentralized ledger has been running for 15 years with almost zero downtime and miraculously everyone in the world agrees on the state of the ledger. Not only that, peoples' willingness to pay for the asset traded on this ledger has gone from <$1 to $30,000.
Sounds like a success so far to me.
Why so condescending tho? Nothing wrong with people doing whatever the f*ck they enjoy.
Nice work! Might I suggest a timely SBF portrait? Maybe an American Gothic takeoff with Caroline?
As an equal opportunity downer, I have to challenge Super's use of language here, this is not an asynchronous payment any more than the K1 in a LNURL-Withdraw link or trusted shitcoin swap is.
Since the receiver must come online to sweep the state, it's not asynchronous, it's a promise not unlike any centralized solution.
The internet does not work asynchronously, it works through re-attempts and re-signaling.
Let's talk LSPs!
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Thinking about how stacker news feels like Reddit back in 2008. A small but intelligent community, high signal, low noise. Can’t wait to see this grow.
Day 246 of snailposting everyday 'til BTC hits $100k.
...and 46 push-ups. (20 - 20 - 6)
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Can confirm that autowithdraw kicked in for me. Thanks!
Tarrare, the French soldier with an insatiable appetite:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarrare
sure, femininity is learned. you find a positive ideal if you look.
I think women serve beauty uniquely, perhaps I should think more on how it fits into the mold that means femininity. But as soon as you start to define what a woman is, don't women get a little perturbed, no matter what? She wants freedom. She wants to be a contradiction. She wants to be beautiful and powerful. She wants to be weak and strong.
Amsterdam
Cheers! Today is my recovery day - but mentally I'm with You!
Ah. RED or Network is the same. Sorry about that. Sometimes I use RED or Network. Cause RED is in spanish and Network i'm English
I'm getting boring over here, answering more or less the same things.
Set up new hardware wallet, clean my flat, read long-overdue books.
(pretty good indication that a) my fiat job takes up too much time, b) I suck at managing my time)
I did the go into debt to buy bitcoin and tbh I regret it. It has been mostly profitable but the mental cost isn't worth it.
I've had similar experiences in the Caribbean.
To me it's not just that faking friendliness feels gross, but being treated purely as an economic opportunity by someone else is literally dehumanizing. The confronting part, though, is recognizing that I am a big economic opportunity for many people and really through no fault of theirs or credit of mine. Considering their situation, it's no wonder they would take the strategy they're taking.
I love it!
I've advocated for OP's getting to set the reply fee before, but I hadn't thought of it being customizable to individual responders.
I also like applying this idea to tagging stackers, which I know @k00b has brought up before.
gpt was having trouble with the full set of data for whatever reason
I mainly just wanted to convey that recent exponential growth anyway, comments ranged around 10-40 for a long time prior to August from what I glanced at
@nemo you realize that zapping natalia is like zapping yourself on this thread?
Is pure madness this thread. And I got also sats LOL
Please stop
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we are creating a butterfly effect damn it!
@k00b - suggestion for the name of the next SNL: butterfly effect
Understand the problem and the need from the advertisers perspective. Seeing the same ad over and over for engaged users may be a bit of a ‘turn-off’ however.
Users being able to define thresholds per week of the same ad may prove useful, without damaging number of unique views for advertisers. Got to think about those that slouch in the saloon all day ;)