The difference is posts would just be tagged appropriately and publicly posted.
not posted IN Bitcoin, or IN AdvancedColdCardTutorial or IN PoliticalDiscussion or IN CanadianConservativePoliticalNews ... why do these need to be specific places with rulers? Just let posts be posts and help facilitate it to those who would be interested in it. The cream will rise to the top. I would require a root tag though, that's where it would be posted "in", if anywhere.... I wouldn't allow posts to be untagged.
side note: I don't know, is tag the wrong word? should it be label? whatever works really. I'm gonna start saying label instead of tag. I don't like to keep saying tag over and over again. tag tag tag, nah..
There would have to be some hierarchical system for the labels to be organized. SportsIceHockeyNHLNewYorkRangers shouldn't be a single labelchain (?_?) at least visibly like so... IDK there's got to be a point where the root of the labels becomes implied in the later ones... seeing {{[Sports]+[Baseball]+[MLB]+[BostonRedSocks]+[Daily Discussion]}} is pretty ugly and we also wouldn't want links like stacker.news/sports/IceHockey/NHL/NewYorkRangers/thread03374989 either I don't think? You'd hope that it'd just be stacker.news/NewYorkRangers/thread03374989 because if were talking about the rangers, we know we're talking about the NHL Sport of Ice Hockey.
I'm all over the place when I'm trying to explain ideas, bare with me. I'm going to present the Idea like I'm a new user creating an account and being introduced to this new ecosystem. I think it would be really easy and intuitive to onboard new users. let us roleplay:
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I, the brand new user of Stacker News, am looking to participate in discussions of my favorite hockey team team, amongst other things that interest me.. As I make an account, I quickly create a lightning login account, click next, and some labels pop up.. I'm being asked to select labels that may be of interest to me. I choose some basic ones... they offered me some options to dig deeper into some of the different labels but I just want to browse so I've made some choices and left the preselected labels selected.
After clicking next, I'm browsing the home page... I would see posts that are trending with labels like [Sports] and [Gaming] and [Art] and [Politics] and [Science] and [Technology] and [Economics].
I click on the label [Sports] under one of the posts and I'm brought to a new page of posts all labelled with [Sports] including [NFL] and [MLS] and [Cricket] and [Ice Hockey] and [Boxing] and so on.
I click on a [Ice Hockey] label on a post and same thing, Now all posts I see are trending posts labelled with [Ice Hockey]... I can search these posts by top of the / most trending / most discussed / most... of the [choice of time frame] Like every other time I am reading through similarly labeled posts. While browsing [Ice Hockey], I see trending posts labeled with [NHL] and [SHL] and [KHL] and [OHL]. I click on [NHL].
I see posts with labels including [NewYorkRangers] and [BostonBruins] and [VegasGoldenKnights]... I click on [NewYorkRangers] and see trending posts with this label. I have arrived at the content I was seeking and have found the discussions I am looking for. I follow the [NewYorkRangers] label. When I follow it, I'm suggested a few other labels that users who follow [NewYorkRangers] also follow, including [NHL], [IceHockey]+[Prospect]+[Analysis], and [NewYorkJets]. I like to geek out about the draft so I'll also follow the [IceHockey]+[Prospect]+[Analysis] labelchain.
I go back to home page and begin browsing whatever content I am interested in. I start following labels that interest me. I follow [Advanced]+[Bitcoin]+[ColdCard]+[Tutorial]. I also follow [Advanced]+[Tutorial], so I'll see any post that has both labels on it. I follow [Historical]+[Japanese]+[Art] and [Modern]+[InteriorDesign]. I click on the 'trending labels' tab and It shows me info on how popular certain tags are, historical data on when certain combinations became popular. Other labelchains that may be of interest to me.
As I continue to use the website, I organize my lists of labels so I can easily sort through what I want to see with ease. Users share their own personal Labelchains. Some have them directly available on their user profile page and I can just click on it and see his exact feed on SN with all of his interests. I can save his labelchain and anyone elses and swap between them when I feel like my own feed is getting stale. When I see a label I like while I'm browsing someone else's feed, I can click a button that says Save to --> skreepchain #2 --> List --> Politics, or whatever you know?
Also, last thing, the creation of labels should be in some way crowdfunded so they are determined and not all over the place. You don't want users to create [Funny] and [Funnnny] and [Fuuunnny] and [funnnnnny] and [fffunny] and [ffuuunnnyy] and [fuunyyy] to be labels... you'd just want [Funny].... Then maybe one day a streamer who goes by [fffunny] comes along and his community wants to fund the tag to distinguish that particular content. Ultimately, you want determined tags the community has approved and actually wants to use.
I'd imagine users could place a deposit on a label proposal which would need X amount of users to donate a small amount in order to make that a label. Users could even go to a tab of the website where they see a label proposal board, where they pledge maybe 100 sats and pre-follow labels that have been proposed by users. This way the Label system could grow naturally. You could reward users for being founders with a special emblem. Funding for the label could even then be a pool that is used to reward users who post with the newly approved label to kickstart activity using that label.
In this process, you could determine ties to other labels, as in [IceHockey] and [NHL] are bound, just as [NHL] and [BostonBruins] are tied, but has nothing to do with [InteriorDesign]. This gives opportunity to determine community consensus on spelling/formatting and what should be and shouldn't be chained together and what is or isn't acceptable for this website (a profane label would never make it past proposal, and it would be like putting money in a fire lol...)
I've gone on long much too long for one post.... I've probably brought up too many things for y'all to even approach a cohesive response to lol... I actually do really like the overall idea of making the domains in which these posts exist much more modular and interconnected than tons of little nation states with their little rulers ruling over their little ecosystems.
Feel free to ask further questions, I noticed both you @koob and @kr took some form of interest in the concept. Let me know what you think.
The difference is posts would just be tagged appropriately and publicly posted.
not posted IN Bitcoin, or IN AdvancedColdCardTutorial or IN PoliticalDiscussion or IN CanadianConservativePoliticalNews ... why do these need to be specific places with rulers? Just let posts be posts and help facilitate it to those who would be interested in it. The cream will rise to the top. I would require a root tag though, that's where it would be posted "in", if anywhere.... I wouldn't allow posts to be untagged.
side note: I don't know, is tag the wrong word? should it be label? whatever works really. I'm gonna start saying label instead of tag. I don't like to keep saying tag over and over again. tag tag tag, nah..
There would have to be some hierarchical system for the labels to be organized. SportsIceHockeyNHLNewYorkRangers shouldn't be a single labelchain (?_?) at least visibly like so... IDK there's got to be a point where the root of the labels becomes implied in the later ones... seeing {{[Sports]+[Baseball]+[MLB]+[BostonRedSocks]+[Daily Discussion]}} is pretty ugly and we also wouldn't want links like stacker.news/sports/IceHockey/NHL/NewYorkRangers/thread03374989 either I don't think? You'd hope that it'd just be stacker.news/NewYorkRangers/thread03374989 because if were talking about the rangers, we know we're talking about the NHL Sport of Ice Hockey.
I'm all over the place when I'm trying to explain ideas, bare with me. I'm going to present the Idea like I'm a new user creating an account and being introduced to this new ecosystem. I think it would be really easy and intuitive to onboard new users. let us roleplay:
==
I, the brand new user of Stacker News, am looking to participate in discussions of my favorite hockey team team, amongst other things that interest me.. As I make an account, I quickly create a lightning login account, click next, and some labels pop up.. I'm being asked to select labels that may be of interest to me. I choose some basic ones... they offered me some options to dig deeper into some of the different labels but I just want to browse so I've made some choices and left the preselected labels selected.
After clicking next, I'm browsing the home page... I would see posts that are trending with labels like [Sports] and [Gaming] and [Art] and [Politics] and [Science] and [Technology] and [Economics].
I click on the label [Sports] under one of the posts and I'm brought to a new page of posts all labelled with [Sports] including [NFL] and [MLS] and [Cricket] and [Ice Hockey] and [Boxing] and so on.
I click on a [Ice Hockey] label on a post and same thing, Now all posts I see are trending posts labelled with [Ice Hockey]... I can search these posts by top of the / most trending / most discussed / most... of the [choice of time frame] Like every other time I am reading through similarly labeled posts. While browsing [Ice Hockey], I see trending posts labeled with [NHL] and [SHL] and [KHL] and [OHL]. I click on [NHL].
I see posts with labels including [NewYorkRangers] and [BostonBruins] and [VegasGoldenKnights]... I click on [NewYorkRangers] and see trending posts with this label. I have arrived at the content I was seeking and have found the discussions I am looking for. I follow the [NewYorkRangers] label. When I follow it, I'm suggested a few other labels that users who follow [NewYorkRangers] also follow, including [NHL], [IceHockey]+[Prospect]+[Analysis], and [NewYorkJets]. I like to geek out about the draft so I'll also follow the [IceHockey]+[Prospect]+[Analysis] labelchain.
I go back to home page and begin browsing whatever content I am interested in. I start following labels that interest me. I follow [Advanced]+[Bitcoin]+[ColdCard]+[Tutorial]. I also follow [Advanced]+[Tutorial], so I'll see any post that has both labels on it. I follow [Historical]+[Japanese]+[Art] and [Modern]+[InteriorDesign]. I click on the 'trending labels' tab and It shows me info on how popular certain tags are, historical data on when certain combinations became popular. Other labelchains that may be of interest to me.
As I continue to use the website, I organize my lists of labels so I can easily sort through what I want to see with ease. Users share their own personal Labelchains. Some have them directly available on their user profile page and I can just click on it and see his exact feed on SN with all of his interests. I can save his labelchain and anyone elses and swap between them when I feel like my own feed is getting stale. When I see a label I like while I'm browsing someone else's feed, I can click a button that says Save to --> skreepchain #2 --> List --> Politics, or whatever you know?
Also, last thing, the creation of labels should be in some way crowdfunded so they are determined and not all over the place. You don't want users to create [Funny] and [Funnnny] and [Fuuunnny] and [funnnnnny] and [fffunny] and [ffuuunnnyy] and [fuunyyy] to be labels... you'd just want [Funny].... Then maybe one day a streamer who goes by [fffunny] comes along and his community wants to fund the tag to distinguish that particular content. Ultimately, you want determined tags the community has approved and actually wants to use.
I'd imagine users could place a deposit on a label proposal which would need X amount of users to donate a small amount in order to make that a label. Users could even go to a tab of the website where they see a label proposal board, where they pledge maybe 100 sats and pre-follow labels that have been proposed by users. This way the Label system could grow naturally. You could reward users for being founders with a special emblem. Funding for the label could even then be a pool that is used to reward users who post with the newly approved label to kickstart activity using that label.
In this process, you could determine ties to other labels, as in [IceHockey] and [NHL] are bound, just as [NHL] and [BostonBruins] are tied, but has nothing to do with [InteriorDesign]. This gives opportunity to determine community consensus on spelling/formatting and what should be and shouldn't be chained together and what is or isn't acceptable for this website (a profane label would never make it past proposal, and it would be like putting money in a fire lol...)
I've gone on long much too long for one post.... I've probably brought up too many things for y'all to even approach a cohesive response to lol... I actually do really like the overall idea of making the domains in which these posts exist much more modular and interconnected than tons of little nation states with their little rulers ruling over their little ecosystems.
Feel free to ask further questions, I noticed both you @koob and @kr took some form of interest in the concept. Let me know what you think.