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I cannot give you the best answer for all those questions because I do not have the right information data. I think only SN founders and admins can give you the best answer to this post.

What I can give you is MHO about how I see SN until now (being one of its first users).

  1. I see SN like were the faucets in the early days of Bitcoin

https://i.postimg.cc/T3VB2f54/first-faucet.png

People were receiving a lot of sats for almost doing nothing. But that was a method to bring new users easily. In those early days, was needed more testing and people using it, in order to understand it.
SN is doing something the same, but in small quantities.
As I always said, be wise with zapping. Not everything on SN merit a zap, especially a large amount of sats.

  1. SN is designed to be a better reddit but instead of upvote/downvote will be with sats. Users MUST feel "the pain" when they zap 1 sat or 1000 sats.
    Upvotes on SN are the same as on reddit, one user = one vote. But SN is adding something new, the incentive of amount of sats, not just the vote.
    The amount of sats is ONLY the zapper appreciation to the OP, for its effort. But that is not affecting the "ranking" of that post. Is more like a V4V reward.
  2. All those thinking that SN is an "assmilking" cow... they are wrong. SN is a fair reward system, driven only by each stacker "sats power".

In all this MSM experiment I zapped more than usual. Why? Because I wanted to see how the algo is working or not. But usually I am very careful with how much and to who am I zapping.

I am opening a direct channel to stacker news to see if this will mitigate. I'm seeing "no route" errors in alby:

2024-11-18T14:18:04-07:00 {"app_id":4,"bolt11":"lnbc10n1pnnhtctpp5frtldan6apvdn6ywu2y7nps2lqsn6rfuef785tqs563hn7s0uycqdpg2d8r5gr6v9czqvfqwdshgueqw3hjqgehxuenzdf3cqzzsxqzjcsp5wyalknd26nchkdq0ksl0em56uk5hhw6t0nle34t0nmdpxjrp4j2s9qxpqysgqqf8jlugmgkumygw4vu30xmanglxzxawtyzfs7w60muppu7ewaxt9lpvxz4h6cg7esly4u38rajtlls4nns46gxe73eq40ftvntfwl8sqw4mdnw","level":"info","msg":"Sending payment","request_event_id":1822,"time":"2024-11-18T21:18:04Z"}  
2024-11-18T14:18:04-07:00 {"level":"info","msg":"Received payment failed notification","payment":{"payment_hash":"48d7f6f67ae858d9e88ee289e9860af8213d0d3cca7c7a2c10a6a379fa0fe130","value":1,"creation_date":1731964684,"payment_preimage":"0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000","value_sat":1,"value_msat":1000,"payment_request":"lnbc10n1pnnhtctpp5frtldan6apvdn6ywu2y7nps2lqsn6rfuef785tqs563hn7s0uycqdpg2d8r5gr6v9czqvfqwdshgueqw3hjqgehxuenzdf3cqzzsxqzjcsp5wyalknd26nchkdq0ksl0em56uk5hhw6t0nle34t0nmdpxjrp4j2s9qxpqysgqqf8jlugmgkumygw4vu30xmanglxzxawtyzfs7w60muppu7ewaxt9lpvxz4h6cg7esly4u38rajtlls4nns46gxe73eq40ftvntfwl8sqw4mdnw","status":3,"creation_time_ns":1731964684062362536,"payment_index":37355,"failure_reason":2},"time":"2024-11-18T21:18:04Z"}  
2024-11-18T14:18:04-07:00 {"level":"info","msg":"Marked transaction as failed","payment_hash":"48d7f6f67ae858d9e88ee289e9860af8213d0d3cca7c7a2c10a6a379fa0fe130","time":"2024-11-18T21:18:04Z"}  
2024-11-18T14:18:04-07:00 {"bolt11":"lnbc10n1pnnhtctpp5frtldan6apvdn6ywu2y7nps2lqsn6rfuef785tqs563hn7s0uycqdpg2d8r5gr6v9czqvfqwdshgueqw3hjqgehxuenzdf3cqzzsxqzjcsp5wyalknd26nchkdq0ksl0em56uk5hhw6t0nle34t0nmdpxjrp4j2s9qxpqysgqqf8jlugmgkumygw4vu30xmanglxzxawtyzfs7w60muppu7ewaxt9lpvxz4h6cg7esly4u38rajtlls4nns46gxe73eq40ftvntfwl8sqw4mdnw","error":"no_route","level":"error","msg":"Failed to send payment","time":"2024-11-18T21:18:04Z"}

But those seem to be limited to the 1 sat HTLCs right now.

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I think it takes time for everyone to learn this lesson. I was only zapping 10 sats when I started. Now I zap comments 20-50 and posts minimum 100.

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Thanks KR!

We notice that projects that do well are those that engage constantly with their communities, have awesome rewards and that make bitcoiners feel part of the community!

Anita Posch is definitely at the top with over 250 individual contributors, but Bitcoin Racing also did incredibly well by allowing the community to add stickers to the Bitcoin Racing Cars!

Importantly, the surprise factor is key: what new, crazy and interesting ideas do you want to see happen in the world?

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It was an excellent presentation! I love the way that @k00b thinks about Stacker News reaching net energy and becoming alive. This is one of the best models for what a startup (or any entity/life form) is actually trying to achieve.

And thank you for the kind words. I too think that Keyan is one of our era's great builders - not only in Bitcoin, but on all of the web. I'm always honored and excited to be part of the Stacker News journey.

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Hey Alex! Thanks for sharing my guide for Russian people when it was needed! We made it with Tony, as you said in the post!
https://twitter.com/gladstein/status/1500341296950509569?s=21&t=ZRPle-mmqtAOO1eefcpLig

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I think the majority of stackers are here for the community, the sats are just part of how we talk to each other.

It's like a we are all buskers on a giant subway platform. We are on our way somewhere, but many stop for a second and to a play a song or listen to something new.

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Not only is it ok, it's a moral imperative.

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Would be nice to start opening it up to extra-Bitcoin topics to attract a larger and wider user base.

As a start, how about...

  • Technology (general)
  • Business (or economics more generally)
  • Life Hacks
  • Art
  • Music
  • Books

I know there will be pushback from the maximalists, but I see no reason why Stacker News needs to be focused solely on Bitcoin topics.

Let me know if I'm wrong. 👷

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